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BeitragVerfasst am: 26.08.2006 22:18:50    Titel:
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Und noch eine Ergänzung:

Zitat:
Yesterday I had a quick 'exploration'of my newish vehicle. I removed air
inlet pipes etc. and unscrewed the IAT sensor which measured approx 6.5
KOhms (decreasing as I blew on it). I cleaned the sensor in IPA using an
ultrasonic cleaner and reassembled. I removed the MAP sensor from the fuel
filter but could easily test it as it appears to be a three terminal hall
effect device with a sealed operating diaphram - I did blow back down the
hose to the inlet manifold which seemed to have a bit of liquid obstruction
as I could hear it gurgle at first. MAP sensor refitted. I checked the
injector return pipes which seem o.k., bit aged so I will order new ones and
replace them.

The rocker box breather was not located properly and was hanging off
slightly. The locking 'ears' on it were bent out more and it was cleaned
and refitted correctly so that the 'O'ring sealed o.k. against the rocker
cover.

Went for a drive (14 miles) today and the tickover was down very slightly
from previous when I declutched and stopped but the fault did not occur and
it ticked over fairly smoothly. (previously 660 and 'spluttering') This
makes me think that there might have been variation in breather pressure or
that the MAP sensor is important in tickover control?

I would have checked the other sensors but I didn't feel like taking off the
intake manifold at the time. I looked for a Mass Air Flow Sensor but
couldn't find one in either the manual or on the engine, so presume that
this engine only uses the Intake Air Pressure Sensor?

Next step is to replace the bleed off lines 'in case' so the part numbers
are much appreciated. When I change them I will take off the inlet manifold
and check the crankcase sensors below it and any stepper motor that might be
on the injector pump.


Gruß

Carsten ;-)
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2. LR Ninety MY´87 200TDI
3. Range Rover Classic MY 77
4. ZIL 157KGD 6x6
BeitragVerfasst am: 26.08.2006 22:25:35    Titel:
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Carsten, Carsten...
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BeitragVerfasst am: 27.08.2006 16:51:21    Titel:
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Noch schlimmer ist wer mich alles kennt...

Gibt es Xenon einsätze für die normalen (RR/Defender/Golf) Rundscheinwerfer mit Tüv? Vielleicht die vom neuen G? Vor allem für Abblendlicht suche ich.

Gruß

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BeitragVerfasst am: 27.08.2006 22:50:24    Titel:
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Noch mehr Lösungsansatz - liest eigentlich noch wer mit?

ariane44 hat folgendes geschrieben:
A partial answer.
In early cars the air flow is calculated from the combination of the MAP sensor and the IAT sensor.
Later cars lost the IAT but kept the MAP, also having a Mass Air Flow device bolted to the outlet of the air filter box,
so it's very obvious. Temperature sensing is part of the MAF.

I haven't had any tickover problems on my engine, and if your engine doesn't have EGR the crankcase breather is the same
as mine. At various times the breather has been poorly fitted to the cross pipe, but without detriment to the running.
Funnily enough, I've never had mine come out of the metal cam / rocker cover, as yours was.
I've not checked for fluid in the pipe to the MAP sensor, so can't compare with your findings there.
I haven't checked the IAT sensor in the way you describe, and forgot today. The air temperatures shown in Rovacom have
been believable.
There is no positive MAP at tickover, so all in all I'm surprised, but pleasantly surprised, that what you have done has
affected an improvement to tickover. I don't even have a theory!
Ah Ha. "1999 P 38 manual transmission". I've just checked. As yours is a '99 it probably has the plastic manifold and
EGR. (Plastic manifold good, EGR bad, IMHO). Therefore 'anything' that upsets the EGR is to be blamed for all ills!!

I don't regard removing the inlet manifold as 'trivial'. Having just done it again to day I have confirmed my previous
experience.
Some tips.
Having new gaskets to hand is perhaps obvious, but it may be worthwhile finding if someone does them cheaper than the LR
Dealer. Part number STC 2203 (6 off). As a BMW engine it may be that motor factors have them from alternative suppliers.
It appears that the later engines, with EGR and a black plastic inlet manifold, use the same gaskets. The manifolds are
not interchangeable, as the stud positioning is reversed on 3 inlet tracts, in a mirror image style, on the heads used
with the plastic manifolds.
I strongly recommend you lay in a stock of manifold nuts, packs of 5, STC2199. These are 'special,' as they are not only
flanged, but for the stud size they should be 13mm AF, but are in fact 12 mm AF. This aids access. It is very easy to
drop at least one of the lower ones, and they have a habit of sticking somewhere invisible and inaccessible, rather than
falling through to the floor.
I now use a large plastic floor tray when working in the engine bay, so I can hear when things land, but even so I
dropped one nut, and lost it, perhaps behind the starter motor.
A slender built 3/8" drive socket set comes in handy.

With the manifold off it will be a lot easier to change the fuel return pipes. I thought I'd do mine 'while I was
there', and right swine's they were. The rubber had gone hard and weak. It was easy to break them, and trying to spin
them on the spigots merely twisted the pipe off. Fortunately the spigots are steel, so withstand the necessary knife and
'small straight screwdriver as a chisel' approach to removing the remains. I greased some with Petroleum Jelly, and
lubricated others with diesel fuel. Something is required to get them to slide on fully.

It is essential to remove the manifold to change the heater plugs, which was my task for today. I find I don't need to
remove the HP fuel pipes, but use an assortment of sockets, UJs, and extensions to get in everywhere. Most
significantly, for the plugs I use a 12 mm 1/2" drive socket, to give me the internal depth to accommodate the stud, but
then use an adapter to facilitate using the 3/8" UJ, extension etc.
Note that new BERU plugs, from LR at least, do not have new nuts, so you definitely don't want to drop those.

"I will take off the inlet manifold and check the crankcase sensors below it and any stepper motor that might be on the
injector pump."

Hmmm.
Certainly taking off the inlet manifold reveals lots of bits that aren't normally visible, never mind accessible.
A power box may connect into the round plug and socket you will find, so discovering how that unscrews will be useful.
The only sensors are in the cylinder head, the front one supplying the temperature gauge, the rear one supplying the
engine ECU (with coolant temperature). I have changed the rear one with the manifold in place, but it took a 19mm (3/4")
lightweight box spanner, strategically cut as short as possible while still clearing the terminal socket, then blanking
the end and brazing in an old 1/4" drive socket so I could use a 1/4" drive extension. This was the only way to clear
the HP fuel pipes, although I did have to loosen the adjacent pipe clamp to give a bit of flexibility.
There is no stepper motor.


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Carsten ;-)
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2. BMW GS 650 twin wurde geklaut !
3. Ducato 14 Camper
BeitragVerfasst am: 28.08.2006 12:46:04    Titel:
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...sorry, aber klar les ich mit....aber datt dauert halt nen Augenblick....muß doch auch den text kopieren...und dann gen Richtung Scotland schicken...geht nicht so schnell Heiligenschein

...aber danke.. Love it

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