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Verfasst am: 14.11.2006 12:51:07 Titel: Nett geschrieben... |
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http://www.4wdmonthly.com.au/tourists.php, durch sqm auf den Link aufmerksam geworden. Schöne neue Welt.....
"On two occasions I was left wondering how I would get these two whiz-bang vehicles from where they stopped working all the way back to Sydney.
I began to question the benefit of the electronics to tourers first when on an isolated sheep station miles from anywhere, the Disco’s dash lights began to flash at me indicating that the stability and traction control systems had failed. At this same moment, as we were negotiating Spinifex bushes half way up a sand dune, the airbags all dropped the Disco flat on its belly. After plenty of looking and head scratching, what else can you do, I turned the ignition off and restarted the engine which saw the Disco lift itself up, stop flashing its lights and act as if nothing had happened.
Not five minutes later, whilst climbing a small red sand dune nearby, the Jeep’s dashboard started warning me of a transmission overtemp, just as it stopped sending drive to the wheels and refuse to change gears. I instantly thought of you, readers who may consider buying such vehicles to use in these conditions, and what options you would have to get going again. Apart from ringing Land Rover or Jeep I couldn’t come up with any then I looked down at my mobile phone and remembered that I wasn’t within coooeee of mobile reception. Good luck!
After a while I restarted the Jeep and it drove normally again. Unlike the Disco 3, while the Jeep was tested rigorously throughout the world, it was never tested in Australia before its release. Its auto transmission cannot handle low-speed sand driving in summer as it overheats the fluid and stops working until it cools down. It is designed mainly for American buyers who need 4WDs to get around town when it snows half the year in the cooler climate.
Here is Land Rover’s response when I asked why the Discovery 3’s electronics shut down.
Hi Glenn,
The Engineering Department has asked me to pass on the following information regarding AD30QO.
Upon further testing by Land Rover Australia, condition did not recur with original and fitment.
Possible causes;
-Historical fault code logged
-Trailer wiring connected to vehicle
-Temporary intermittent voltage supply to park/neutral switch and/or low vehicle battery voltage.
This basically says that Land Rover don’t know what caused the problem. The Disco will usually reset itself after turning the ignition off and on again. However the following day the same thing happened. When travelling along a gravel road at 100km/h the airbags dropped the Disco to minimum height and the dash flashed at me. By pulling over and restarting the ignition it drove home without recurrence.
PARTING THOUGHT
The Jeep isn’t designed for Australian conditions and it shows. While it survived a fair amount of abuse on this test, it would not tolerate this punishment for too long. As I have seen in previous models, if used off-road often enough, the Grand will eventually crack where the front section meets the front firewall as there is very little reinforcement to support heavy landings that force the front spring towers up. On the plus side, the traction and stability control is great and the V6 turbo-diesel engine is brilliant and far superior to the TDV6. It handles nicely on well formed roads but would benefit greatly from decent shock absorbers. Its interior is very luxurious and accommodating and would be ideal for 4WD trips on weekends but don’t take it near sand or buy one with intent to tour. Its cramped interior limits passenger comfort and luggage space. If used outside the city its stars and stripes, spongy suspension and inadequate chassis construction will reduce its life expectancy considerably.
The Disco 3 is fantastic on all surfaces and gets better as the roads get rougher. It is robust and was never bothered at any speed on any road surface. Its high roofline, spacious, well appointed interior, air suspension and effective engine and gearbox combination make it a fantastic touring vehicle. Unfortunately the small fuel capacity is a negative and I am yet to be convinced as to the reliability of its electronics in remote areas." | |
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Verfasst am: 14.11.2006 13:00:28 Titel: |
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That´s what I said two nights ago  | _________________ Leben ist draußen. Denn wer das Abenteuer sucht, darf den Luxus nicht fürchten.
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Verfasst am: 14.11.2006 13:13:33 Titel: |
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Jepp, Uniframe sind aber beide (mittlerweile)  | |
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Mit dabei seit Mitte 2005 Wohnort: Limbach-Oberfrohna Status: Offline
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Verfasst am: 14.11.2006 13:15:39 Titel: |
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Bondgirl hat folgendes geschrieben: | Jepp, Uniframe sind aber beide (mittlerweile)  |
Gegen Uniframe ansich im Allgemeinen, ist ja auch nix zu sagen. Nur der Jeep hat ... reusper ... eine etwas filigrane Konstruktion  | _________________ Leben ist draußen. Denn wer das Abenteuer sucht, darf den Luxus nicht fürchten.
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Mit dabei seit Ende 2005 Wohnort: Chasing Llamas
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Verfasst am: 14.11.2006 13:50:27 Titel: |
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Ich glaube, wenn´s "wirklich drauf ankommt" führt eh nix am Toyo HZJ vorbei... | _________________ Schwanz haben reicht nicht,
Fux muß man sein!
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Mit dabei seit Ende 2005 Wohnort: 61197
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Verfasst am: 14.11.2006 15:06:57 Titel: |
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BlueGerbil hat folgendes geschrieben: | Ich glaube, wenn´s "wirklich drauf ankommt" führt eh nix am Toyo HZJ vorbei... |
Diese Worte aus des blauesten aller Gerbils Feder versetzt mich in maßloses Erstaunen.
Bisher dachte ich er könne nichtmal Toyota schreiben....................  | _________________ Gruß
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Mit dabei seit Ende 2005 Wohnort: Chasing Llamas
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Verfasst am: 14.11.2006 15:09:34 Titel: |
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Äh?
HZJ & Co. fand ich schon immer klasse, ich kann mich nur nicht mit der britischen Premiummarke anfreunden, that´s all. | _________________ Schwanz haben reicht nicht,
Fux muß man sein!
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Verfasst am: 14.11.2006 15:11:15 Titel: |
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Geeignet ist die britische Premiummarke allerdings auch. Zumindest in der richtigen Version  | |
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